No, no way. I know in my own past I have plenty of things I'm not proud of that have nothing to do with who I am now and how I currently behave. I see no reason to expect more from someone else.
Eric- yeah... but terminators are scary... zombies can be handeled with minimal supplies, as long as you do the smart thing at the key points in the outbreak... Terminators you need like heavy ordinance and such... much more difficult to plan for as civilians... you're right, though, something to take into account...
Me- Oh I'm not talking defeat them, I'm talking the initial HOLY FUCK TERMINATORS plan so as to not die instantly. Defeat is something long term. We could totes do it, but at this point I'm focused on initial survival percentages.
Eric- hmm... yeah, that's a good call... I mean, I think the best strategy is to not be important in the future... but failing that, a HOLY FUCK TERMINATORS clause in the escape plan is probably a good idea... wonder if a big giant electro-magnet would fuck up their internal systems long enough to make a decent break for it?
Me- Oh, oooh. How hard would it be to make one of those? Can it be done with fairly common supplies? If we could rig a decent one of those for the initial break away... What about those big ass magnets that lift up cars? Couldn't we surround a stronghold with those as a line of defense while we worked on the real deal solutions?
Eric- possibly... I know if you wrap a ferrous piece of metal (iron, steel, etc) in copper wire extremely tightly and run a current through it, you get a magnet, but I don't know how much of a current you need or anything like that... the junkyard magnets seem like they should work brilliantly, but how would one get one's hands on such a thing?
Me- I'll have to do some research. It's definitely worth adding to the "look into" pile. As for the junkyard magnets... I'm assuming if the terminators become reality it'll be more of a battle to find than to secure them. Maybe make a list of local facilities with such things? Then we'd know right where to go. Not terribly helpful with the very initial survival aspect but good for the interim.
Eric- good call. As you say, not much good for the first wave, as it were, but assuming we make it through that, they'd be a good way to fortify a base of operations. I think they're even aimed, like attract from down but not from up, so you could put them on their side and have one-way facing out...
Me- Oooh, that would be handy, the on the side thing. I also think we need to look into the possibilities of a home made EMP type device. I'm sure they're vastly technical but you're a genius so it shouldn't be beyond your abilities. We should also explore molten metal as a possible defense. Mostly for the liquid metal kind, but I'm sure it would do a number on the regular old bot type too, don't you think?
Eric- I think you over estimate my mental capabilities :-P And I think it would work very well against pretty much any type, but the trouble is you need the kind of furnace you find in a smelting plant for that, and I don't know of any of those out here, AZ is not known for it's mining or metal processing... but still a good thing to keep in mind, if the facilities present themselves... :-)
Me- I think you under estimate your mental capabilities. Takes a genius to work magic systems the way you do. So there. :P Well, the lack of smelting in AZ is easily solved by the fact that you'd book ass back out here where the cronies are. We can't band together to save the world if we don't band together in the first place!
Eric- That is very true, and VT needs to be the seat of the resistance, it just seems fitting somehow... I think there are even a few people from out here I could bring along... hmm...
Me- Obviously you can bring whomever you would feel is a suitable member of the resistance. I trust your judgment on such things. Scavenging along the way would increase the likelihood of us finding the materials that we need to put the most effective plan into action, too. I'm thinking some good old fashioned cannons might be helpful, in a brute strength kind of way.
Eric- good idea, but we'd need to load them with something other than "traditional" cannon balls... softer metals and such... again, we'd ultimately want to wither hook up with some military or ex/para-military people and get fancy hardware like depleted uranium anti-tank rounds and such... but as you said, some good old fashioned stuff would be great, if we could find some harder metals to throw at them...
Me- You don't think you could take off a terminator head with a well aimed cannonball? Hmm... possibly not. Fucking super strong freak robots. They're ever so much harder to plan for than the squishy meat puppet zombies.
Eric- hell yes they are. scary-ass fucking indestructible assassins... If the liquid-state ones show up, we'd be proper fucked. Need energy weapons or, like you said, molten metal, to deal with those things...
Me- Well, we have the Ruger plant nearby, they have to make those bits somewhere, maybe they have some sort of smelting thing going on. That's something we can look into.
When we finally got home( Cut for medical drama and three potentially squicky wound pictures...Collapse )
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I just want to talk about a couple themes this afternoon because I love this country and I want to see America be the best place it can be.
Mr. Gutierrez is getting ready to propose an immigration bill in just a few short days, and we have to make sure he knows that we want a bill that's tough on immigration. Now is the time for us to stand up and make our voices heard!
In Minneapolis, where I’m from, we have a huge immigrant population that’s been causing a number of problems. With the economy in recession, and so many people getting laid off, and unable to find work, immigrants should not be competing for the few jobs that are out there. It's just not fair to the folks who have a claim to this land and the right to be here. All across America, they are contributing to the flooding of our job markets making it hard for Americans to find jobs. Well, I'm fed up, and it's time to let our politicians know that enough is enough, and we're not gonna take it any more!
We need to secure our borders to protect our country. We need to restore order and put an end to the anarchy that's sweeping the nation. We need tougher immigration laws to make sure that we send these people back where they came from. We need to protect the sovereignty of the real Americans. We need to hold our politicians accountable.
It's no secret that with an invasion of immigrants comes waves of crime. We see them involved in massive theft, in murder, and bringing diseases like smallpox, which is responsible for the death of millions of Americans. These aren't new problems, though -- they have been going on for hundreds of years, and continue to this day.
I say it's time for us to say enough is enough! Are you with me? Are you with me? Let's send these European immigrants back where they came from! I don't care if they are Polish, Irish, English, Italian, or Norwegian! European immigrants are responsible for the most violent and heinous crimes in the history of the world, including genocide and slavery! It's time to restore the sovereignty of people native to this land!
I want more workplace raids, starting with the big banks downtown. There are thousands of illegals working in those buildings, hiding in their offices, and taking Dakota jobs. Let's round them up and ship them out. Then we need to hit them at home where they sleep. I don’t care if we separate families, they should have known better when they came here illegally!
If we aren't able to stand up to these European immigrants, who can we stand up to? We need to send every one of them back home, right now.
Thank you very much, and we'll see you in the streets!
Columbus Go Home! Columbus Go Home! Columbus Go Home!
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Girl's Not Grey
The Leaving Song Pt. II
Too Shy To Scream
Ever And A Day
Dancing Through Sunday
The Leaving Song
On The Arrow
Death of Seasons
Love Like Winter
Silver and Cold
AFI last night, fucking awesome night. The Gallows was great too. Need to get to more dirty little punk shows, I'm such a fan.
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Fuck you. No, I'm not joking. I'm sick of this bullshit.
I'm sick of the way you've corrupted the public discourse. The way you've made it acceptable to hurl any insult you like at public officials. The way you blame us for the current atmosphere of hatred by accusing us of starting it with hating Bush. Like Bush didn't come on the heels of eight years of your tireless efforts to destroy Clinton by any means necessary, like Bush didn't give us good reason to complain. A couple of posters on a website compared Bush to Hitler and you've used it as free license to compare Obama to Hitler 24/7 and I'm sick of your hypocrisy, where it's acceptable to say shit about Obama that you would have had an apoplectic fit (and did) if anything remotely similar had been said about your guys. Keith Olbermann calls Cheney a fascist when he was actually using fascist tactics and you think that gives you the freedom to call Obama a fascist, socialist, Marxist constantly for no reason at all. Fuck you and your bullshit false equivalency.( FFFFFFFFCollapse )
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